Thornsberry Genealogy

 featuring the surname Thornsberry, Thornsborough, Thornburgh, etc., and the
related lines of early American ancestors beginning with eastern Kentucky to their European origins

Hundreds of eastern Kentucky ancestors, 4 thousand name downloadable gedcom the result of 25 years of genealogy. Ancestors include Charlemagne, England's and Scotland's early kings, Quakers.
The famous Domesday Book states the Thornborough surname originated at the Manor of Thornborough in the north central part of Yorkshire.The earliest ancestor in the male line that I'm aware of is from an ancient pedigree of the house of Curwen, which gives Ivo de Tailleboise, of Viking ancestry and a Norman of the house of Anjou, (born 995-1036 in York, England). It was his descendant who first had the surname Thornsburgh (pronounced thornzburee). Ivo is said by the Curwen pedigree to be
1. the "left-handed" (illegitimate) brother of  Fulk/Foulque, Earl Anjou,  King of Jerusalem
2. uncle of  William the Conqueror
3. and married to Gondreda, Countess of Warwick.

Fulk V was Count of Anjou 1109-1129 and King of Jerusalem 1131-1143 and married Melisande, daughter of Baldwin II, King of Jerusalem on 2 June 1129 when he was 40 years old.  Born too late to be Ivo's brother if these dates are correct, but he was the only Fulk who was King of Jerusalem. Perhaps Ivo was the son of Fulk III, aka Nerra, who did make three journeys to Palestine and had a son Fulk IV who was born abt 1045. Ivo's nephew in this case would have been Fulk V who son Geoffrey of Anjou married Matilda, daughter of Henry I of England (1100-1135).

 William the Conqueror was also illegitimate, the son of Robert 6th Duke of Normandy from 1028 to 1035. His mother was a peasant named Arlotte of Normandy. Robert died in the Crusades which made William the 7th Duke of Normandy as a child in 1036. According to Hereward the Wake, Ivo de Tailleboise saved William the Conqueror's life at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 when an arrow shot by Hereward the Wake went through William's shield and pinned it to his breast.  After this battle, which made William the King of England, William made Ivo the Earl of Holland in Lincolnshire, and the first Baron of Kendal, and gave Ivo a lot of land in England  which had been Earl Algar's and should have been Earl Edwin's or Morcar's. One of Ivo's two wives was Lucia of Mercia born abt 1040 in Mercia, given to Ivo as a war prize after the Battle in 1066. (Ivo said "I have her father's lands, why not have the daughter too?"). She was the daughter of Thorold, an Englishman who was Lord of Spaulding in Lincolnshire. Lucia had one child, a daughter named Lucia, who married twice but has no living descendants today.  Ivo died in 1094 or 1097.
From "Hereward, the Wake" Volume II, Chapter XXI, page 1: "A proud man was Ivo de Tailleboise as he rode next morning out of Spalding Town with a hawk on his fist, hound at heel, and a dozen men-at-arms at his back...An adventurer from Anjou, brutal, ignorant, and profligate, low-borne too...valiant he was, cunning, and skilled in war. Called 'thou old butcher' by King William, he and his group of Angevin rutters had fought like tigers by William's side at Hastings".
The Thornsboroughs and Thornsberrys and all other variations of the name are descended from Ivo's other wife Gendreda, Countesse of Warwick, daughter of Aelfgar a.k.a. Eadgar, the King of Mercia and his wife Godiva. This pedigree was verified in 1762 by a Mr Curwen, an emissary of  the King of England, because of the Thornsborough's relationship through marriage to the Kings of England. My line of Thornsboroughs was the second branch to come to America, descendants of two brothers, Charles and Richard, who left England for Ireland because of being disinherited for joining the Quaker Church after hearing George Fox preach there in Kendal, (the Thornsborough family was loyal Catholics for centuries). Charle's Quaker grandchildren arrived via Ireland to Pennsylvania (Thornsbury Pennsylvania near Philadelphia), and their Quaker desendants came to New Garden Monthly Meeting, Guilford Co., NC. This is where John Thornsborough got disinherited when he married out of the Quaker faith to Suzannah Starnes. John and Suzannah moved to eastern Kentucky in the late 1700's.That's how Thornsberrys came to Kentucky.

"For inquire, I pray thee, of the former age and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers, for we are but of yesterday." Job 8:8-10

I say
When night has fallen on your loneliness
And the deep wood beyond the ruined wall
Seems to step forward swiftly with the dusk
You shall remember them. You shall not see
Water or wheat or axe-mark on the tree
And not remember them.
You shall not win without remembering them,
For they won every shadow of the moon,
All the vast shadows, and you shall not lose
Without a dark remembrance of their loss
For they lost all and none remembered them.
Stephen Vincent Bene't

Due to the volume of information, and the increasing number of requests for information that I have compiled regarding my ancestors, please find below a list of gedcom files, broken out by family names, which you are welcome to download to assist you with your
personal research. Publication of this material without permission is prohibited. Corrections of this material with citation of sources is welcome.  Sincerely, Deborah Thornsbury Keser.


 


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A little about me: I am a registered nurse, raised in Iowa, married to a physician raised in Turkey. I work full time. Hobbies: genealogy and tole painting. I started doing genealogy when I was 16 when I wrote to and got three generations of ancestors from Landel Thornsberry in Kentucky. Why genealogy? Because soon after my grandpa John M. Thornsberry died when I was eleven, I had dreams of him where I saw him in the Next Life. He was happy in a beautiful place green with plants and  flowers of all kinds, standing with a few relatives, all wearing white robes. Grandpa told me very earnestly, putting his hands on my shoulders in the dream, "Deborah, listen very carefully. These are your people, and we need you to do this." "This" that he spoke of was genealogy.
 
 


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